![]() ![]() ![]() I think deep down, I was trying to get back to Vermont and kind of gave me a way to get home and to be back with my family and just gave me a break from the life I was living in New York. How being home in Vermont during the pandemic shaped his music I think to tell a story, you have to be specific and you have to be detailed. ![]() And in doing so, I lost the specificity of my feelings and my life and my interpretation of where I was in life. I was just trying to be as universal as possible. I had a lot of fun doing that, but I eventually started to feel like I was no longer connecting to anything. It has to be relatable very quickly, and it has to be applicable to anyone's lives. Writing pop songs, you go in and you have a concept and you want it to be this hugely relatable concept. On placeless pop music and the importance of details in songwriting That spot where you're figuring out who you are and how to reconcile what's just ended with what's to come. I spent a lot of stick seasons in Vermont in my early 20s, and I was always feeling kind of in-between things in my life - between love and losing love and moving on to the next thing. It was a term that was really specific to Vermont, but also I was reflecting on it in my own life and what it meant to me to be in this time of transition. You can't go play soccer, you can't do too much hiking and you also can't go skiing. So all the leaves have gone, foliage is over in Vermont, which is obviously a beautiful time, and it's kind of this transitional time. "Stick season" is a term that I heard older neighbors in Vermont and New Hampshire use to describe the time of year between late October and the first snow. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. "It's one final - I promise final - kind of goodbye to the Stick Season era, which I have just loved living in and never want to leave." His latest release is an iteration of Stick Season that reimagines the songs with collaborators he's met along the way: Brandi Carlile, Gregory Alan Isakov and Post Malone are among them. "It's like a combination of feeling like you're in a dream and feeling like you're finally living your dream," he says. ![]()
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